Full interview: New Mexico Secretary of State Maggie Toulouse Oliver
Full interview: New Mexico Secretary of State Maggie Toulouse Oliver
Madam Secretary. Thank you for joining us today. Thanks for having me. So in the fight against election fraud, there's been this pivot among some of your colleagues to *** fight over election fraud detection. And I'm talking about Eric the electronic registration Information Center. This is *** group of some states that share voter registration data to find out whether there are people that are registered in multiple states, whether they're double voting to catch fraud. Some of your colleagues mainly conservative have withdrawn their states from this partnership. Your state is still in why? Because it's one of the best, most effective tools we have to keep our voter registration database accurate. Not only are we able to figure out when folks have moved into our state or out of our state. We're also able to figure out whether folks have tried to vote in more than one state. And uh it's *** really help tool even just to track folks within our state, whether they're moving around from one city or one county to another to keep that voter registration database accurate so that folks can have confidence in the accuracy and the outcomes of our elections you're *** former president of the National Association of Secretaries of State. You've got former presidents, Paul Pay from Iowa. You've got from Louisiana, they've withdrawn from Eric. I think they're really hurting themselves in their states. Um I, I don't think that they necessarily wanted to um, not have the value that Eric provides but, you know, really this has come down to be AAA political proxy fight over the 2020 election and, and folks who are in the election and our, our community are really pushing my Republican colleagues to, you know, take these kinds of political stands for reasons. I don't really understand and, and frankly, it's undermined one of the last really important bipartisan, you know, tools that we have as election administrators. Let's talk about another issue of concern that has come up here at this annual conference of the National Association of Secretaries of State. We've talked before about misinformation and disinformation. Let's talk about the new frontier of disinformation, artificial intelligence. *** I deep fakes. Are you worried that *** I and def fakes can be used to mislead voters in your state? I don't think any election administrator in this country is not worried about this issue. Of course, we're deeply concerned, we don't know where it's going, we don't know how it's going to be used yet. So we're spending this time in the lead up to 2024 getting as educated as we possibly can about the potential implications of *** I and building plans to be able to fight back against the Miss and dis info that we anticipate will come. They could be *** deep fake of you absolutely could. And it's terrifying about election rules about, hey, we moved the election from Tuesday to Wednesday, anything like that. Sure. And I mean, one thing that we've gotten really effective at over the last few years in particular is pushing back, pushing back against lies and malformation. You know, unfortunately, we spend more of our time doing that kind of work than we are able to, you know, educate in advance pre debunk, etcetera. But we're just going to have to keep building up the tools in our toolbox to fight back. OK. Another issue that you're dealing with the secretaries of state across the country, the Brennan Center for Justice in April released survey results that found about one in five election workers that's 20% say they're planning to quit before next year's presidential election. That's the equivalent they said of 1 to 2 election officials quitting every day since the 2020 presidential election, which saw unprecedented threats, disinformation, COVID, et cetera. Are you experiencing higher than normal turnover of election workers in your state? I don't think we in New Mexico are experiencing that. And I think we have the blessing and the benefit of having our state be made up of mostly very tight community oriented rural communities throughout our state. You know, folks who have been serving as election officials year after year after year for decades, even in some cases, that being said, we are of course, still concerned about that. So we are putting *** lot of effort into recruiting new folks to come, work to the polls. And, you know, here's the reality. We always have to be doing that. You know, at the end of the day, if we're going to have *** volunteer run democracy, we're going to have folks coming and serving at the polls. We need to always be bringing new blood into the process. So we're just doubling down on our efforts to do that to make sure we have *** sustainable program for the future. Finally, what is your top priority for the next state wide election? My top priority is to make sure we run *** clean accurate election with high voter participation. We've been seeing record high participation these last few years. We want to keep that going. Um But that means my office, we have to make sure we're getting our ducks in *** row. We're working with our county clerks to give them every single tool that can possibly benefit them in their work. And that's what we're focused on right now. Madam Secretary. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you, Mark.
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Full interview: New Mexico Secretary of State Maggie Toulouse Oliver
New Mexico Secretary of State Maggie Toulouse Oliver speaks to Chief National Investigative Correspondent Mark Albert.
New Mexico Secretary of State Maggie Toulouse Oliver speaks to Chief National Investigative Correspondent Mark Albert.
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