Full interview: Pennsylvania Secretary of State Al Schmidt
Full interview: Pennsylvania Secretary of State Al Schmidt
Sir. Thank you very much for making time for us today. Of course, thanks for having me. Let's talk about in the fight over election fraud. There's this fight about catching the fraud and I'm speaking about the electronic registration Information Center, Eric, which is this group of states that collaborate to catch when people are double voting or they're registered in two states, et cetera. They've been using it for many years now. There are some states who are dropping out of it saying that it has now become controversial. Your state has stayed in why for us? And I know this is *** county election administrator and also *** Secretary of State. Eric is an incredibly valuable tool to ensure election integrity when it comes to identifying voters who have moved out of the commonwealth of Pennsylvania or moved away and passed away to make sure that voter rules are as accurate as you possibly can uh have them. So, Eric is there's no replacement for it, there's no alternative to it. Um and allows us to share information with other states to improve their voter rolls and for them to share with us. So we can do the same. Do you have any concerns about it? About Eric? Do you have any concerns? Some of your conservative colleagues have expressed concerns about the direction of the organization. Do you have any concerns? Yeah, I, I don't share their concerns. Uh I know how valuable Eric has been to us again as it relates to election integrity. Um And you know, normal people, regular people when they move away, they usually don't think to cancel their voter registration record or obviously when people pass away loved ones don't think to cancel their voter registration record. So this really helps us use information to do this matching, to do it in *** way that's safe and secure um to make our roles as accurate as possible. Let's talk about one of the topics that always comes up at these conferences, which is disinformation. Now, there appears to be this new frontier of disinformation, artificial intelligence or *** I deep fakes. For example, are you worried about *** I misleading voters in your state? Well, it is *** concern, it's something that the other secretaries and I have begun talking about at this at this conference to figure out where we're going to go from here to what groups we can sort of align with, to learn about this *** little bit more about the advantages to *** I and also the threats that it could potentially pose, right? We've seen the threats that disinformation impose to democracy and our election system we have and they're much less sophisticated than something like *** I and have been nevertheless very successful in undermining confidence in election results and undermining confidence in our democracy. Let's talk about another word that has come up here at NASA. That's election workers, the Brennan Center for Justice in April. The survey results that found one in five election workers 20% say they plan to quit before next year's presidential election. That's the equivalent to 1 to 2 election officials quitting per day since the 2020 presidential election which saw unprecedented threats, disinformation COVID protocols, et cetera. Are you expecting higher than normal turnover of election workers in your state? Well, it is for me, what I would regard is the biggest threat that we're currently facing is the loss of experienced election workers. People who have done this for *** long time leaving for *** number of reasons. Some just demographic. You have *** cohort of people who are all reaching retirement age at all around the same time. Others who really don't want to be involved in elections in this current atmosphere that we have seen in the last few years and others who just you run elections for *** long time and now you're counting has to adopt *** new voting system and *** new system of voting like mail in ballot voting. It's become much more complicated. Running elections is far more complicated than it was when I began doing it just, you know, 12 years ago, um we have seen *** significant number of people leave. That's *** concern. It's *** concern because when experienced people leave and they're replaced with less experienced people, they're more likely to make mistakes and make mistakes in an environment where every thing is perceived as being malicious and intentional and seeking to change the outcome of an election. Even though let's just be very, very clear, there are almost no instances of election workers deliberately trying to commit fraud at *** precinct that is entirely accurate. However, when any problems occur, no matter how small in the present environment, they're certainly perceived as being intentional and nefarious and seeking to either suppress voter turnout in some neighborhood or or not. It goes back to that misinformation and disinformation. It does. And I think the Pennsylvania Department of State plays *** very important role in training election board workers, election workers as they come in. Election administrators working with our association in Pennsylvania so that they can help uh sort of mentor one another and for us to prepare materials, tools, other training manuals so that they um uh they know what to do in advance of election day. We all operate under the same election code in Pennsylvania, but the counties are very different. There's *** big difference between running an election in Philadelphia and running an election in, in Elk County. For sure, Mr Secretary, thank you so much for your time. Thank you for having me.
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Full interview: Pennsylvania Secretary of State Al Schmidt
Pennsylvania Secretary of State Al Schmidt speaks to Chief National Investigative Correspondent Mark Albert.
Pennsylvania Secretary of State Al Schmidt speaks to Chief National Investigative Correspondent Mark Albert.
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